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Charles Bristow
We are currently in Apache Junction near Phoenix but are planning on heading up to Grand Canyon on Friday. Overnight temps are forecast to be minus 5. We will keep heat on inside so am not worried about that but I am wondering if that temp could cause any “frozen pipe” issues in areas of the Navion that might be uninsulated. If anyone has experience of this situation please give me your thoughts. Thank you
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Keep your tank heaters on, and a 60W incandescent bulb in your water bay. John 12J Mi. On Mar 2, 2023, at 8:13 AM, Charles Bristow <charlesbristow100@...> wrote:
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Not to be crude but I'd have cover-able gallon jugs and buckets to "go" in and also pour a sizable amount of antifreeze in your traps and waste tanks. At this point I always refer to Inspector Clousea of "The Pink Panther" .... "WHO can ski in THIS weather!!!" and thus rapidly head south before nightfall. The Grand Canyon will be there next time you visit and what is it touring a place looking at it through an ice-covered window. People who would be telling you to rely on your tank heaters might not be fully aware of how far they may be separated over the years from the tanks or know if they are even working. It looks like a lot of V/Ns are on a Texas beach right now, so that might be something else to consider. Good luck!
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Rv’s in general are late Spring, summer, early fall vehicles.
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I’ve rv’d since I was about 10 with parents, so it’s been 60 years. I would stay or head for a much warmer area OR winterize. RV antifreeze thru all water appliances (h2o heater drain and bypass) and lines. We sometimes camp down to 20d, but I’ve insulated and rerouted heater into areas where there is no heat. Another factor is wind. It will push freezing air into places you cannot imagine and do thou$and$ of damage. Don’t screw around with this! Again, stay or head to warmer temperatures or winterize. -5d will cost you. You got this! Dave Beadles :-) On Mar 2, 2023, at 8:13 AM, Charles Bristow <charlesbristow100@...> wrote:
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I am at Lost Dutchman in Apache Junction now. My advice to you is stay where you are. Getting up on the Colorado Plateau is about 5000 feet higher and gets a lot colder. They have lots of snow up there now to deal with. If you do go up there you should winterize your rig and do dry camping. John 21 V D On Mar 2, 2023, at 8:14 AM, Charles Bristow <charlesbristow100@...> wrote:
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My experience, 22 degrees before shower lines freeze with 74 degrees in the coach.
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On Mar 2, 2023, at 10:13 AM, Charles Bristow <charlesbristow100@...> wrote:
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Charles Bristow
Hi John…. Too funny… we are here too and in spot #63…… where are you? C
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On Mar 2, 2023, at 9:07 AM, n2trout via groups.io <n2trout@...> wrote:
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Charles Bristow
Also thanks everyone for your rapid input….. sounds like we should sat down this way as it will be nice and warm on tbe weekend here
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Having come all the way from Canada it is a shame not to see the GC as I have always wanted to and am not sure if we will be back this way but I am not complaining as we feel immensely lucky to be able to travel like this 😀 On Mar 2, 2023, at 9:07 AM, n2trout via groups.io <n2trout@...> wrote:
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#11. Leaving today going SOUTH to Casa Grande. John 21 V D On Mar 2, 2023, at 8:14 AM, Charles Bristow <charlesbristow100@...> wrote:
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Charles Bristow
Might see you there John😀
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On Mar 2, 2023, at 9:24 AM, n2trout via groups.io <n2trout@...> wrote:
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dan gluesenkamp
I think those temps may be cold unless you do some extreme extra insulation.
We have camped with temps down to 15 at night with no issues. But I had a 60 watt trouble light warming the water closet. And our dump valves froze shut.
There are several among this group who have successfully done it in lower temps. Hopefully they will respond.
Dan 15 Nav V IN
From: discussion@view-navion.groups.io <discussion@view-navion.groups.io> on behalf of Charles Bristow via groups.io <charlesbristow100@...>
Sent: Thursday, March 2, 2023 9:13:45 AM To: discussion@view-navion.groups.io <discussion@view-navion.groups.io> Subject: [view-navion] Cold Temps We are currently in Apache Junction near Phoenix but are planning on heading up to Grand Canyon on Friday. Overnight temps are forecast to be minus 5. We will keep heat on inside so am not worried about that but I am wondering if that temp could cause
any “frozen pipe” issues in areas of the Navion that might be uninsulated. If anyone has experience of this situation please give me your thoughts. Thank you
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Actually that’s 24*f so it’s still on the edge of the envelope. John 21 V D On Mar 2, 2023, at 10:32 AM, dan gluesenkamp <dan@...> wrote:
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Garrison Smith
Hey Charles, I have spent many nights in my 2017 Navion at temps in the 20’s and did not have trouble with freezing. I do run the gas heat, set on about 55 and it usually cycles on and off during the night. It seems to be enough to keep the floor area and as far as I know the pipes warm enough.
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Minus. 5 might be too much though. If you try it, keep the pump on and if anyone gets up, just run the water a minute at kitchen and bath.
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Charles Bristow
The minus 5 I mentioned is, of course, Celsius….. equivalent to 23 or 24 Fahrenheit
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On Mar 2, 2023, at 11:25 AM, Garrison Smith <smith.garrison@...> wrote:
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Don Lewis
I kept my 2013 j from freezing at 4 degrees, but it was a struggle . Electric heaters in water compartment and under sinks. Also def will freeze at below 12 degrees . On Thu, Mar 2, 2023, 10:13 AM Charles Bristow <charlesbristow100@...> wrote: We are currently in Apache Junction near Phoenix but are planning on heading up to Grand Canyon on Friday. Overnight temps are forecast to be minus 5. We will keep heat on inside so am not worried about that but I am wondering if that temp could cause any “frozen pipe” issues in areas of the Navion that might be uninsulated. If anyone has experience of this situation please give me your thoughts. Thank you |
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That's an old Canadian trick, tripping us up with Celsius LOL.
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paisleydale
Spent the night in Pagosa Springs, CO and it got down to 8 degrees without hurting anything. Hot water tank on propane but we were low on propane so we did not run the heater like we would have liked. We did get nice hot showers in the morning and had to scrape the inside of the windshield as that is where the ice was. Hope to never do that again but we were traveling to San Antonio, TX for grandson's December Air Force graduation.
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Charles Bristow
Hi Dale
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Are you saying 8 degrees Fahrenheit? I’m only concerned about 24 Fahrenheit which seems balmy in comparison! On Mar 2, 2023, at 9:25 PM, paisleydale via groups.io <paisleydale@...> wrote:
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Celsius??? Big difference between F and C.
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Dave Beadles :-) On Mar 2, 2023, at 9:54 PM, Charles Bristow <charlesbristow100@...> wrote:
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Hi Charles. Sorry if I did not see other responses. Yes, you will freeze things. If your black and grey tanks don’t freeze, the plumbing between them and the valves to empty the tanks will. I speak from experience on the later. Personally, I would not take my rv in such temperatures. I had mine in 15 degrees and went through a stressful thaw process. Good luck.
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On Thursday, March 2, 2023, 10:13 PM, Charles Bristow <charlesbristow100@...> wrote:
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