Help Please


Brenda Bratton
 

We are newbies. we just arrived home in GA from Tampa with our 2023 Navion 24. It is getting down to freezing tonight. We bought a 100 foot 12 gauge electrical cord and an adapter to plug the Rv into our home electrical. Now what? we dont want to winterize just protect it from the freeze this week. Thank you in advance for quick response. The Brattons


Joseph Janeczek
 

Drain your tanks - Completely.  Look at your manual to drain as many lines as possible --- otherwise I would run your heat pump heater.  It it cuts out, you will need to run your propane furnace and/or a portable electric heater.  Get a good one and be sure to keep it away from anything that can catch fire.  I assume you are storing outside.  Try to store it so wind does not blow under the rig, use bales of hay, boards, anything that will keep the wind from blowing through and freezing things up.


On Tue, Mar 14, 2023 at 6:32 PM Brenda Bratton <brendabratt1956@...> wrote:
We are newbies. we just arrived home in GA from Tampa with our 2023 Navion 24. It is getting down to freezing tonight. We bought a 100 foot 12 gauge electrical cord and an adapter to plug the Rv into our home electrical. Now what? we dont want to winterize just protect it from the freeze this week. Thank you in advance for quick response. The Brattons



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732-809-3176


Tom
 

From what I understand it won’t freeze around 32. If it gets much lower you can turn on tank heating pads, and some people run a light bulb into the wet bay to keep that from freezing up. 
You can pour some rv antifreeze into the toilet and sinks. There are other measures too. Others can chime in. Tom 

On Tue, Mar 14, 2023 at 3:32 PM Brenda Bratton <brendabratt1956@...> wrote:
We are newbies. we just arrived home in GA from Tampa with our 2023 Navion 24. It is getting down to freezing tonight. We bought a 100 foot 12 gauge electrical cord and an adapter to plug the Rv into our home electrical. Now what? we dont want to winterize just protect it from the freeze this week. Thank you in advance for quick response. The Brattons

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Terry Fenwick
 

Hi Brenda,
I don't know the forecast for your area, but if it is not a prolonged time far below freezing, then plugging in the RV to the house mains and running the propane furnace at a setting of say 50o F (or plug in a small electric heater on a low setting) will keep the interior warm enough to keep most all of the plumbing lines from freezing up. You might also want to heat up the water in the hot water tank (if yours has a hot water tank!) once a day to run some warm water through the lines. If you can dump the grey and black tanks, the tank drain pipes will not have liquid in them and will be ok. If you have a macerator pump (which I don't have on my unit) you will want to ensure it is drained empty or otherwise protected from damage if it freezes up. The last vulnerable area of piping of concern is the exterior shower taps....
If the forecast is for prolonged well below freezing temperatures, then you should look at 'winterizing' the plumbing, either blowing out the water lines and antifreeze in the drain traps or antifreeze also into the supply lines.
My experience has been that with heat on inside the RV, the plastic water supply lines can withstand some freezing up. It is the sink & shower taps, rigid drain traps, tank valves and macerator pump that are vulnerable and you don't want to have water in them freeze, expand and crack them.
Terry  06 VH  Ontario

 

On 3/14/2023 6:23 PM, Brenda Bratton wrote:
We are newbies. we just arrived home in GA from Tampa with our 2023 Navion 24. It is getting down to freezing tonight. We bought a 100 foot 12 gauge electrical cord and an adapter to plug the Rv into our home electrical. Now what? we dont want to winterize just protect it from the freeze this week. Thank you in advance for quick response. The Brattons


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Steve
 


No worry.  Plug it in and run your gas heat OR use a space heater to maintain the heat inside at a temperature above about 65 degrees. We also use an incandescent bulb in the water compartment to keep that warm. May not need the bulb if use gas heat since warm air is circulated through compartment.

We spend a lot of time up in Maine in the fall.  We have been successful with temperatures down to about 10-15 degrees.

Steve N08H MD

On 3/14/23 6:23 PM, Brenda Bratton wrote:

We are newbies. we just arrived home in GA from Tampa with our 2023 Navion 24. It is getting down to freezing tonight. We bought a 100 foot 12 gauge electrical cord and an adapter to plug the Rv into our home electrical. Now what? we dont want to winterize just protect it from the freeze this week. Thank you in advance for quick response. The Brattons


KForce1
 

My thoughts are, to with a 10ga cord not 12....Its thicker.
Ni
Ot an expert but I do thing thats whatvyou need

Regards,
Kevin M Elliott


On Tue, Mar 14, 2023, 6:32 PM Brenda Bratton <brendabratt1956@...> wrote:
We are newbies. we just arrived home in GA from Tampa with our 2023 Navion 24. It is getting down to freezing tonight. We bought a 100 foot 12 gauge electrical cord and an adapter to plug the Rv into our home electrical. Now what? we dont want to winterize just protect it from the freeze this week. Thank you in advance for quick response. The Brattons


Brenda Bratton
 

I hopefully thanked all for your help and input. If not.. thank you all so much!! this is all very helpful!  

On Tue, Mar 14, 2023 at 6:56 PM Terry Fenwick <terryfenwick2@...> wrote:
Hi Brenda,
I don't know the forecast for your area, but if it is not a prolonged time far below freezing, then plugging in the RV to the house mains and running the propane furnace at a setting of say 50o F (or plug in a small electric heater on a low setting) will keep the interior warm enough to keep most all of the plumbing lines from freezing up. You might also want to heat up the water in the hot water tank (if yours has a hot water tank!) once a day to run some warm water through the lines. If you can dump the grey and black tanks, the tank drain pipes will not have liquid in them and will be ok. If you have a macerator pump (which I don't have on my unit) you will want to ensure it is drained empty or otherwise protected from damage if it freezes up. The last vulnerable area of piping of concern is the exterior shower taps....
If the forecast is for prolonged well below freezing temperatures, then you should look at 'winterizing' the plumbing, either blowing out the water lines and antifreeze in the drain traps or antifreeze also into the supply lines.
My experience has been that with heat on inside the RV, the plastic water supply lines can withstand some freezing up. It is the sink & shower taps, rigid drain traps, tank valves and macerator pump that are vulnerable and you don't want to have water in them freeze, expand and crack them.
Terry  06 VH  Ontario

 

On 3/14/2023 6:23 PM, Brenda Bratton wrote:
We are newbies. we just arrived home in GA from Tampa with our 2023 Navion 24. It is getting down to freezing tonight. We bought a 100 foot 12 gauge electrical cord and an adapter to plug the Rv into our home electrical. Now what? we dont want to winterize just protect it from the freeze this week. Thank you in advance for quick response. The Brattons


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Brenda Bratton
 

Thank you so much!!! 

On Tue, Mar 14, 2023 at 7:02 PM Steve <steve.putnam@...> wrote:

No worry.  Plug it in and run your gas heat OR use a space heater to maintain the heat inside at a temperature above about 65 degrees. We also use an incandescent bulb in the water compartment to keep that warm. May not need the bulb if use gas heat since warm air is circulated through compartment.

We spend a lot of time up in Maine in the fall.  We have been successful with temperatures down to about 10-15 degrees.

Steve N08H MD

On 3/14/23 6:23 PM, Brenda Bratton wrote:
We are newbies. we just arrived home in GA from Tampa with our 2023 Navion 24. It is getting down to freezing tonight. We bought a 100 foot 12 gauge electrical cord and an adapter to plug the Rv into our home electrical. Now what? we dont want to winterize just protect it from the freeze this week. Thank you in advance for quick response. The Brattons


Brenda Bratton
 

Thank you so much!! Appreciate all the info and help here!! 

On Tue, Mar 14, 2023 at 6:56 PM Terry Fenwick <terryfenwick2@...> wrote:
Hi Brenda,
I don't know the forecast for your area, but if it is not a prolonged time far below freezing, then plugging in the RV to the house mains and running the propane furnace at a setting of say 50o F (or plug in a small electric heater on a low setting) will keep the interior warm enough to keep most all of the plumbing lines from freezing up. You might also want to heat up the water in the hot water tank (if yours has a hot water tank!) once a day to run some warm water through the lines. If you can dump the grey and black tanks, the tank drain pipes will not have liquid in them and will be ok. If you have a macerator pump (which I don't have on my unit) you will want to ensure it is drained empty or otherwise protected from damage if it freezes up. The last vulnerable area of piping of concern is the exterior shower taps....
If the forecast is for prolonged well below freezing temperatures, then you should look at 'winterizing' the plumbing, either blowing out the water lines and antifreeze in the drain traps or antifreeze also into the supply lines.
My experience has been that with heat on inside the RV, the plastic water supply lines can withstand some freezing up. It is the sink & shower taps, rigid drain traps, tank valves and macerator pump that are vulnerable and you don't want to have water in them freeze, expand and crack them.
Terry  06 VH  Ontario

 

On 3/14/2023 6:23 PM, Brenda Bratton wrote:
We are newbies. we just arrived home in GA from Tampa with our 2023 Navion 24. It is getting down to freezing tonight. We bought a 100 foot 12 gauge electrical cord and an adapter to plug the Rv into our home electrical. Now what? we dont want to winterize just protect it from the freeze this week. Thank you in advance for quick response. The Brattons


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Brenda Bratton
 

Thank you so much!! Greatly appreciated!!  

On Tue, Mar 14, 2023 at 6:46 PM Tom <Tbarnett@...> wrote:
From what I understand it won’t freeze around 32. If it gets much lower you can turn on tank heating pads, and some people run a light bulb into the wet bay to keep that from freezing up. 
You can pour some rv antifreeze into the toilet and sinks. There are other measures too. Others can chime in. Tom 

On Tue, Mar 14, 2023 at 3:32 PM Brenda Bratton <brendabratt1956@...> wrote:
We are newbies. we just arrived home in GA from Tampa with our 2023 Navion 24. It is getting down to freezing tonight. We bought a 100 foot 12 gauge electrical cord and an adapter to plug the Rv into our home electrical. Now what? we dont want to winterize just protect it from the freeze this week. Thank you in advance for quick response. The Brattons

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Bob Knight
 


On Tue, Mar 14, 2023, 17:32 Brenda Bratton <brendabratt1956@...> wrote:
Thank you so much!!! 

On Tue, Mar 14, 2023 at 7:02 PM Steve <steve.putnam@...> wrote:

No worry.  Plug it in and run your gas heat OR use a space heater to maintain the heat inside at a temperature above about 65 degrees. We also use an incandescent bulb in the water compartment to keep that warm. May not need the bulb if use gas heat since warm air is circulated through compartment.

We spend a lot of time up in Maine in the fall.  We have been successful with temperatures down to about 10-15 degrees.

Steve N08H MD

On 3/14/23 6:23 PM, Brenda Bratton wrote:
We are newbies. we just arrived home in GA from Tampa with our 2023 Navion 24. It is getting down to freezing tonight. We bought a 100 foot 12 gauge electrical cord and an adapter to plug the Rv into our home electrical. Now what? we dont want to winterize just protect it from the freeze this week. Thank you in advance for quick response. The Brattons


Bob Knight
 


On Tue, Mar 14, 2023, 17:32 Brenda Bratton <brendabratt1956@...> wrote:
Thank you so much!! Appreciate all the info and help here!! 

On Tue, Mar 14, 2023 at 6:56 PM Terry Fenwick <terryfenwick2@...> wrote:
Hi Brenda,
I don't know the forecast for your area, but if it is not a prolonged time far below freezing, then plugging in the RV to the house mains and running the propane furnace at a setting of say 50o F (or plug in a small electric heater on a low setting) will keep the interior warm enough to keep most all of the plumbing lines from freezing up. You might also want to heat up the water in the hot water tank (if yours has a hot water tank!) once a day to run some warm water through the lines. If you can dump the grey and black tanks, the tank drain pipes will not have liquid in them and will be ok. If you have a macerator pump (which I don't have on my unit) you will want to ensure it is drained empty or otherwise protected from damage if it freezes up. The last vulnerable area of piping of concern is the exterior shower taps....
If the forecast is for prolonged well below freezing temperatures, then you should look at 'winterizing' the plumbing, either blowing out the water lines and antifreeze in the drain traps or antifreeze also into the supply lines.
My experience has been that with heat on inside the RV, the plastic water supply lines can withstand some freezing up. It is the sink & shower taps, rigid drain traps, tank valves and macerator pump that are vulnerable and you don't want to have water in them freeze, expand and crack them.
Terry  06 VH  Ontario

 

On 3/14/2023 6:23 PM, Brenda Bratton wrote:
We are newbies. we just arrived home in GA from Tampa with our 2023 Navion 24. It is getting down to freezing tonight. We bought a 100 foot 12 gauge electrical cord and an adapter to plug the Rv into our home electrical. Now what? we dont want to winterize just protect it from the freeze this week. Thank you in advance for quick response. The Brattons


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Brenda Bratton
 

Thank you so much!! Appreciate your response! 

On Tue, Mar 14, 2023 at 6:45 PM Joseph Janeczek <joseph.janeczek@...> wrote:
Drain your tanks - Completely.  Look at your manual to drain as many lines as possible --- otherwise I would run your heat pump heater.  It it cuts out, you will need to run your propane furnace and/or a portable electric heater.  Get a good one and be sure to keep it away from anything that can catch fire.  I assume you are storing outside.  Try to store it so wind does not blow under the rig, use bales of hay, boards, anything that will keep the wind from blowing through and freezing things up.

On Tue, Mar 14, 2023 at 6:32 PM Brenda Bratton <brendabratt1956@...> wrote:
We are newbies. we just arrived home in GA from Tampa with our 2023 Navion 24. It is getting down to freezing tonight. We bought a 100 foot 12 gauge electrical cord and an adapter to plug the Rv into our home electrical. Now what? we dont want to winterize just protect it from the freeze this week. Thank you in advance for quick response. The Brattons



--
Joseph Janeczek, PE, ARM
732-809-3176


Timothy Thompson
 

If you have a small space heater. Put it inside the camper and turn it on.

Tim

On Tue, Mar 14, 2023, 5:32 PM Brenda Bratton <brendabratt1956@...> wrote:
We are newbies. we just arrived home in GA from Tampa with our 2023 Navion 24. It is getting down to freezing tonight. We bought a 100 foot 12 gauge electrical cord and an adapter to plug the Rv into our home electrical. Now what? we dont want to winterize just protect it from the freeze this week. Thank you in advance for quick response. The Brattons


steve hooley
 

I also have a new 23 Navion but have had a number of RV’s.

I do not think you will have a problem as my experience and feedback from those MUCH more experienced is that it takes 20 plus hours of sub freezing temps before you will have major issues.   

I would:
-Close the slide (lots of air loss with the slide open)
-Close all shades to help with heat loss
-Turn on the tank heaters (switch should be in the cabinet above the cooktop)
-set the heat in the RV to 65
-Open all valves (sinks and showers to allow water to expand)
-Open all cabinets that have plumbing under them to allow warm air to flow.

If you are really nervous you can drain the fresh water and blow out the lines with a compressor.

I wish you the best, these are imperfect machines, but a lot of fun, and generally more resilient than I would have thought.


On Mar 14, 2023, at 5:32 PM, Brenda Bratton <brendabratt1956@...> wrote:


We are newbies. we just arrived home in GA from Tampa with our 2023 Navion 24. It is getting down to freezing tonight. We bought a 100 foot 12 gauge electrical cord and an adapter to plug the Rv into our home electrical. Now what? we dont want to winterize just protect it from the freeze this week. Thank you in advance for quick response. The Brattons


Frank Kimble
 

We just run a small electric heater when temps approach freezing. A short time a little below freezing will at most make a thin film of ice. Not enough to cause expansion an pipe damage. We do drain the pipes buy don’t blow them out for a mild freeze. And leave the cabinet doors open for better heat distribution.

 

Frank former 07J owner

 

From: discussion@view-navion.groups.io [mailto:discussion@view-navion.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brenda Bratton
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2023 6:24 PM
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Subject: [view-navion] Help Please

 

We are newbies. we just arrived home in GA from Tampa with our 2023 Navion 24. It is getting down to freezing tonight. We bought a 100 foot 12 gauge electrical cord and an adapter to plug the Rv into our home electrical. Now what? we dont want to winterize just protect it from the freeze this week. Thank you in advance for quick response. The Brattons


Ken Ashbrook
 

Welcome to a great forum with helpful RV’ers
This is my “take’…….if your temps are going to dip into freezing temps for more than a couple of  nights and your daytime is moderate, then, I wold worry about freezing pipes. If the daytime temps are frigid followed by nighttime for a couple of days, yes prepare the rig. We put a 60W lightbulb in various compartments where that are valves and wate. This surfaces, here in the mid Atlantic. Also, place a radiator type heater in the main area of the RV. 
We survived many a winter doing this. 

K&J and the Boyz
08' VJ-24




Brenda Bratton
 

Thank you. someone mentioned leave the cabinet doors open so we did under the sink and bathroom sink.  

On Tue, Mar 14, 2023 at 7:45 PM Frank Kimble <fkimble@...> wrote:

We just run a small electric heater when temps approach freezing. A short time a little below freezing will at most make a thin film of ice. Not enough to cause expansion an pipe damage. We do drain the pipes buy don’t blow them out for a mild freeze. And leave the cabinet doors open for better heat distribution.

 

Frank former 07J owner

 

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Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2023 6:24 PM
To: discussion@view-navion.groups.io
Subject: [view-navion] Help Please

 

We are newbies. we just arrived home in GA from Tampa with our 2023 Navion 24. It is getting down to freezing tonight. We bought a 100 foot 12 gauge electrical cord and an adapter to plug the Rv into our home electrical. Now what? we dont want to winterize just protect it from the freeze this week. Thank you in advance for quick response. The Brattons


David Dunlap
 

Plug in to shore power with your cord, turn on the tank heater and the electric heat to 45 or 50.  I would drain the water tank and hot water tank as well.

Dave Dunlap
2015 View J

On Mar 14, 2023, at 3:23 PM, Brenda Bratton <brendabratt1956@...> wrote:

We are newbies. we just arrived home in GA from Tampa with our 2023 Navion 24. It is getting down to freezing tonight. We bought a 100 foot 12 gauge electrical cord and an adapter to plug the Rv into our home electrical. Now what? we dont want to winterize just protect it from the freeze this week. Thank you in advance for quick response. The Brattons


Brenda Bratton
 

Per your instrux , we did drain the clean water. will drain the black & gray tomorrow at a campground near us. 
thx!!

On Tue, Mar 14, 2023 at 8:22 PM David Dunlap <ercdwd@...> wrote:
Plug in to shore power with your cord, turn on the tank heater and the electric heat to 45 or 50.  I would drain the water tank and hot water tank as well.

Dave Dunlap
2015 View J

On Mar 14, 2023, at 3:23 PM, Brenda Bratton <brendabratt1956@...> wrote:

We are newbies. we just arrived home in GA from Tampa with our 2023 Navion 24. It is getting down to freezing tonight. We bought a 100 foot 12 gauge electrical cord and an adapter to plug the Rv into our home electrical. Now what? we dont want to winterize just protect it from the freeze this week. Thank you in advance for quick response. The Brattons